tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5312159882790612546.post1348415090174734104..comments2023-11-02T08:41:44.231-07:00Comments on The Sanctuary: Briffault's Law: A law on a fault of womanhood?Spacetravellerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02202131232540121117noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5312159882790612546.post-8436586811282763502020-09-02T05:33:36.479-07:002020-09-02T05:33:36.479-07:00The issue is that the both above are contradictory...The issue is that the both above are contradictory unless a man excels in Game. For exactly the reason that headship was shunned. There’s almost no good way forward for contemporary man willing to maintain family even if he’s ready to sacrifice all autonomy. Dominikhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11656474298145353827noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5312159882790612546.post-38641724244446963992019-02-13T22:18:08.001-08:002019-02-13T22:18:08.001-08:00This is a prime example of how laws can be i...This is a prime example of how laws <a href="http://www.toronto-dui-lawyer.ca" rel="nofollow"> </a> can be interpreted differently by individuals with different perspectives. I tend to leave such childish ways of influence and stick to the facts when making decisions. DUI Lawyerhttp://www.toronto-dui-lawyer.canoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5312159882790612546.post-18233727386629111372017-07-15T07:33:14.094-07:002017-07-15T07:33:14.094-07:00@Ceer said...
Males are just as free to dissociate...@Ceer said...<br />Males are just as free to dissociate with women as the reverse.<br />___________<br /><br />I'm wayyy late to this party. I heard of Briffault's Law for the first time and did a search, and stumbled on this. <br /><br />When both are single, yes men can dissociate with women easily. <br /><br />Once married, no. A wife can dissociate with her husband and extract support from him while sleeping with another man, but a husband cannot easily dissociate with the wife. He will most likely pay dearly for it for years and years to come. <br /><br />I think that is part of why my grandparents had such a great marriage. Call it patriarchy, call it Marriage 1.0, whatever. The fact remained that 1) my grandmother was a great wife (and gorgeous too) and my grandfather had to be a husband to have the benefits of her as a wife. and 2) my grandfather was a great husband and provider, and my grandmother had to be a wife to have the benefits he provided as a husband. She didn't have the option of ejecting him from the home and the kids' lives, and keeping the house and money while he kept the mortgage and bills. <br /><br />I think the failure of marriages lately has been largely due to government meddling. I know, that's not popular to say. One gets accused of wanting to let cheating husbands/fathers off the hook if they walk out, which is not true. I think that is reprehensible for a husband/father to walk. But I also think it is reprehensible for him to get fined repeatedly for life for being kicked out. <br /><br />Best,<br />TrustTrustnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5312159882790612546.post-6508596968230157102016-04-19T23:22:23.376-07:002016-04-19T23:22:23.376-07:00With this knowledge in mind, I will strive to be v...With this knowledge in mind, I will strive to be very successful and stay single.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5312159882790612546.post-26220272445455539072013-10-29T15:24:57.386-07:002013-10-29T15:24:57.386-07:00Welcome, Jonathan Lovell,
I sympathise on hearing...Welcome, Jonathan Lovell,<br /><br />I sympathise on hearing about your brush with the family courts...<br /><br />I must confess that the rest of your comemnt was a little abstract for me (and I DO like abstract stuff, lol).<br /><br />I did visit Ucadia.com. I shall need some time to digest it. Thanks for the recommendation.<br /><br /><br />Equally welcome, Oswaldo!<br /><br />I think you missed the point I was trying to make.<br /><br />The woman who marries the poor man with good character is actually what 'used to be'.<br /><br />Gold-digging sluttery has become the order of the day nowadays, because the system is broken. It was actually normal for the likes of your grandma and mine to pick good, stable men as life-partners, even though they were not yet 'made' in the provider stakes.<br /><br />I opine that THEIR priorities are different from the woman who is seeking (above all else) a man with money. To the first type of woman, the good character is more important. To the second category of woman, the money is everything, but in both cases, the woman is seeking *something* from the man, as she should.<br /><br />For his part, a man who marries is expecting *something* from the woman too (something another man cannot give him).<br /><br />We are all looking for *something from the other party, which is why I describe thgis law as a human experiece, rather than something that can be used to 'beat women up with', figuratively speaking.<br /><br />To imply that the idea that a woman might choose 'good character' over 'money' is laughable, shows that you are perhaps not seeing the whole picture. Yes, with seemingly no scruples anymore, it is certainly common that 'money' wins. But the point of Briffault's Law is that it can be 'whatever you want it to be', which is the point of the post.<br /><br />And yes, NAWALT!!!<br /><br />The problem with giving you a name, as you request, is that it is all anecdotal. There is no study that I can point you to that says a certain woman got together with a certain man for his 'good character'.<br /><br />This is the beauty of such a private arrangement. No media, no showy pics of fake love, no pomposity. It's quiet, unassuming, 'getting on with it'.<br />These couples do exist. But no-one can prove they exist. And that is exactly how they like it.<br />I respect that. And I take comfort in their existence, and wish their numbers were greater.<br /><br />Spacetravellerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02202131232540121117noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5312159882790612546.post-48894320492840548022013-10-29T11:55:30.240-07:002013-10-29T11:55:30.240-07:00Hahahaha! You must be joking!
I was (almost) with...Hahahaha! You must be joking!<br /><br />I was (almost) with you up until the point about the poor man with good character! <br /><br />You have got to be kidding me. Name one woman who did this and you can make your point.<br /><br />And once again, I'm talking about hipogamy, "marrying down".<br />Screwing with other (maybe poor) dudes does not count, because they are not for suitable for marriage, they are for the pleasure!Oswaldonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5312159882790612546.post-29519839501764744392013-10-15T22:37:52.334-07:002013-10-15T22:37:52.334-07:00I must opine on this present subject matter as I&...I must opine on this present subject matter as I've had first-hand experience with the "family courts" and such. "Briffault's Law" or no, the golden rule is superior to any "rule" or "law" that ever was, is or will be conceived by any respective body politic or body corporate, anywhere, for any reason, ever; that is: 'treat others how you wish to be treated.' In other words, 'all are equal under the law and subject to the law.' Now, there's now specificity on what the 'law' is, exactly, but only that, once conceived and properly consented to, that all must be equal under the same. As rules may only exist apart from matter in dream space and/or dream time, exclusively, or what's known as a paradox, I would posite that the 'law' is exactly that: the dream, the paradox. In any event, you all are right on the money with the whole "secret societies run the world" business. It's just the people in control of the world are delusional, criminally-insane, mentally-unstable pirates. Ask yourself, would a reasonable person ever negotiate with pirates aboard a pirate ship? Visit Ucadia.com when you get a chance... Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12305312509937915776noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5312159882790612546.post-50470825826381978242013-09-10T11:30:15.708-07:002013-09-10T11:30:15.708-07:00@ Ceer,
Gosh, this one fell through the spam filt...@ Ceer,<br /><br />Gosh, this one fell through the spam filter and I failed to notice.<br />Thanks.Spacetravellerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02202131232540121117noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5312159882790612546.post-64423092652024358852013-07-29T08:29:53.963-07:002013-07-29T08:29:53.963-07:00Thank you for your comment, but I'm sure none ...Thank you for your comment, but I'm sure none of us need a lawyer in the Toronto area, or appreciate unsolicited advertisement. Ceernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5312159882790612546.post-49974078573114608742013-07-29T04:08:01.402-07:002013-07-29T04:08:01.402-07:00Its a very good post. I was very pleased to find t... Its a very good post. I was very pleased to find this site. <a href="http://davidgenis.ca" rel="nofollow">David Genis Toronto lawyer</a>Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07942910170683356275noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5312159882790612546.post-34213574548608172172012-12-25T15:04:31.809-08:002012-12-25T15:04:31.809-08:00Metak,
Saturnalia?
:-)
Something else I had neve...Metak,<br /><br />Saturnalia?<br />:-)<br /><br />Something else I had never heard of before...<br />Was my education spectacularly lacking or was yours impressively superlative?<br />:-)<br /><br />Spacetravellerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02202131232540121117noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5312159882790612546.post-80914302668600505012012-12-23T08:56:58.381-08:002012-12-23T08:56:58.381-08:00@ ST
"Because it requires a woman to not all...@ ST<br /><br /><i>"Because it requires a woman to not allow herself to be taken advantage of, in a way that allows her to be a useful member of society one day."</i><br /><br />It's a Saturnalia miracle! ;-) You can replace 'woman/her' with 'man/him' and I rest my case.<br /><br />Family was and should be woman's domain. But before any woman can drive 'animal family' by her actions, man should chose very carefully and this is where it all goes to hell... ;-) When he's certain he chose well, he can then entrust her with that responsibility.<br /><br />There's a whole 'ocean' of secret societies, comities, groups... etc. The connections between them and the way they introduce the agenda through the politicians, is so simple and well coordinated.<br /><br />Happy Saturnalia to everyone! ;-)metakhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08536194179488710246noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5312159882790612546.post-17317624567406313652012-12-23T01:55:30.561-08:002012-12-23T01:55:30.561-08:00Metak,
"We're all born to sell-fish, yo...Metak,<br /><br /><i> "We're all born to sell-fish, you say? ;-)" </i> <br /><br />Hahahahaha!<br />You are clearly the next £1 fish man :-)<br /><br />I never heard of the Fabian Society before - thanks for that piece of information. (Why does it not surprise me that it was started by the Brits? :-)<br /><br />You know what?<br />On reflection, I actually agree with Metak's law!<br />You know why?<br />Because it requires a woman to not allow herself to be taken advantage of, in a way that allows her to be a useful member of society one day.<br />Either way, whether it is by Briffault's law or by Metak's law, (and of course these are simply mirror images of each other), it is <i> still </i> a woman who drives the 'animal family' by <i> her </i> actions. It confers a great deal of responsibility on her...<br />But if she does it right, her (successful) navigation of Briffault's (and Metak's) law brings her tremendous blessings.<br /><br />No-one is saying it is easy. But at least having the right information is a good place to start. Which is why I like Ceer's suggestion so much.<br /><br />Spacetravellerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02202131232540121117noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5312159882790612546.post-77981362671490848102012-12-22T20:50:28.490-08:002012-12-22T20:50:28.490-08:00@ ST
We're all born to sell-fish, you say? ;-...@ ST<br /><br />We're all born to sell-fish, you say? ;-)<br />We're all born selfish in the eyes of the Manosphere, just as we're all born with sin in the eyes of Christianity. ;-) LoL Wanting something in return is a merchant issue. Expecting nothing in return, but appreciating if received is more a human issue.<br /><br />I would rather say that, use of knowledge is power. For someone to control you, it means only that, you gave him the power to do so. If there were no Esther V., Briffault and co. I would never knew how completely helpless and easily manipulated, we men, are. I should go and feel sorry for myself... ;-)<br /><br />G. Orwell and A. Huxley knew exactly what's the agenda. That's why their novels appear so prophetic. According to some sources, they were both members of Fabian society. The agenda started long time ago. Through these secret societies is the society manipulated into certain way.<br /><br />Metak's Law<br /><br />"The male, not the female, determines all the conditions of the animal family. Where the male can derive no benefit from association with the female, no such association takes place."<br /><br />1. Past benefit provided by the female does not provide for continued or future association. <br /><br />Sex, cooking, cleaning... doesn't mean that it will lead to marriage... ;-)<br /><br />2. Any agreement where the female provides a current benefit in return for a promise of future association is null and void as soon as the female has provided the benefit (see corollary 1).<br /><br />If a female currently provides 'benefits' thinking that it will lead somewhere, you're doing well.. carry on. ;-)<br /><br />3. A promise of future benefit has limited influence on current/future association, with the influence inversely proportionate to the length of time until the benefit will be given and directly proportionate to the degree to which the male trusts the female.<br /><br />Enjoy all you can get for free, promise everything, but sign nothing! ;-)metakhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08536194179488710246noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5312159882790612546.post-1869059634052019642012-12-21T06:02:04.435-08:002012-12-21T06:02:04.435-08:00@ Ceer,
You wouldn't believe how much I agree...@ Ceer,<br /><br />You wouldn't believe how much I agree with you!<br /><br /><i> "To me, the choice is this:<br />1) erode community services so life is less secure<br />2) train young women to appreciate the world beyond themselves." </i> <br /><br />Perfect challenge for young women.<br /><br />Enough of the 'Women's studies' already.<br />A woman does not need 'Women's studies'. She already knows herself enough.<br /><br />We should have 'Male studies' at school/college for women instead. Much more useful, in my opinion. <br /><br />I think I have a better general relationship with men <i> because </i> I understand men better now.<br /><br />And I notice that men who can 'handle' women are the ones who have had the chance to get to know women well.<br /><br />Knowledge is power, as they say.<br /><br />The reason I don't discount Briffault's law as simply an 'insult' to women by a bitter man (as has been suggested by opponents of Briffault) is that I understand that he is simply observing what is true. A woman cannot be expected to expect nothing from a man. But of course she has to give him something back too, because she cannot expect <i> him </i> to expect nothing of her either. Since it is the woman whose body is the conduit for new life, it is her responsibility to guarantee the survival of that new life. The most efficient way to ensue her child's survival is to ensure to the best of her ability, the continued presence of its father, no? She would be a fool to let him off that easy :-)<br /><br />Now neither he nor she may be 'expert' about the other's nature, but they can spend some time (maybe a lifetime?) 'learning'.<br /><br />Briffault's law is not faulty in of itself, I don't think. But yes, I agree with you that it has been twisted to suit <i> only </i> women, at the expense of men (aided and abetted by crook legal and governmental institutions, of course). So men are finding their own solutions to this problem. I don't accord blame to men for this. I think we women need to restore the faith ASAP.<br />Your suggestion is a good place to start.<br /><br />Thank you!<br />And a Happy Christmas to you and yours too.<br /><br />Spacetravellerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02202131232540121117noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5312159882790612546.post-74883731496926250622012-12-21T05:22:09.411-08:002012-12-21T05:22:09.411-08:00@ spacetraveller
My personal beef with your post o...@ spacetraveller<br />My personal beef with your post on Briffault's law is this...<br /><br />Males are just as free to dissociate with women as the reverse. If women seem to have a disproportionate power to leave marriages, it must be because men have a disproportionate desire to stay in them. Why would leaving be thought of as power or control, rather than staying? Think about it. Study after study says that intact marriages correlate with more stable offspring and wealthier lives, so shouldn't we think of control being linked to those who choose to stay? <br /><br />Briffault's law states nothing about leadership, it only covers benefit for the woman, saying that for a man to continue to have a relationship with a woman, he must provide a continued benefit. <br /><br />As westerners, we've inherited a system where men were to provide plenty of ongoing benefit<br />1) gina tingles<br />2) physical protection from animals and rival humans<br />3) raising children<br />4) male leadership<br />5) financial support<br /><br />As it happens, our modern society has evolved to the point where most of these benefits are provided by the government, so there's less of a need for a man. If you count notable community organizations like: national militaries, family courts, and emergency services, we're left with a list more like:<br /><br />1) gina tingles<br />2) late-child developement and discipline<br />3) male leadership<br /><br />Remember, western women fear and mistrust male leadership. I've personally had plenty of women balk at the idea of submission. They're just inundated with the concept that in order to be safe, they have to control everything. Many of them are explicitly trained to take control of their own lives...leaving us with:<br /><br />1) gina tingles<br />2) late-child development and discipline<br /><br />The two remaining reasons to have a man. <br /><br />Given Briffault's Law as true, men of the past had to display a mix of characteristics. Those characteristics still apply today...but only as much as they trigger our two remaining benefits. <br /><br />This situation will remain true as long as women demand that they lead lives where they don't have to study the world around them in order to better decide what's really best for them. <br /><br />To me, the choice is this:<br />1) erode community services so life is less secure<br />2) train young women to appreciate the world beyond themselves<br /><br />To not choose, is to pick choice 1. You said women have a responsibility. This is it.<br /><br />Merry ChristmasCeernoreply@blogger.com