tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5312159882790612546.post7820992921092021613..comments2023-11-02T08:41:44.231-07:00Comments on The Sanctuary: The harem - a niche viewSpacetravellerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02202131232540121117noreply@blogger.comBlogger37125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5312159882790612546.post-36233292760786893672012-07-07T00:47:04.467-07:002012-07-07T00:47:04.467-07:00Ah yes, Bell, I found it!
Thank you.
It was a GREA...Ah yes, Bell, I found it!<br />Thank you.<br />It was a GREAT post. I like the analogy between abortion and bullimia.<br />Because it is so true.<br />One really needs to look at things in a 'harsh' light sometimes, to see the error of our ways, huh?<br />Not easy, but it should be done this way...Spacetravellerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02202131232540121117noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5312159882790612546.post-21627886225147916292012-07-06T23:52:02.691-07:002012-07-06T23:52:02.691-07:00@ST
Please refresh my memory!
It was the post &q...@ST <br /><i>Please refresh my memory!</i> <br />It was the post "Of Human Life" . . . its title borrowed from the infamous "birth control encyclical." ;) <br /><br /><i>Would you care to elaborate?</i> <br />I had a very influential writer in mind when I wrote that, but I've avoided using the writer's name in public for some time (because this writer's supporters are unusually skilled in finding out where people are discussing their idol and flooding in). I'll e-mail you the reason why I think what I do.Bellitanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5312159882790612546.post-70624654984284389172012-07-06T16:46:24.024-07:002012-07-06T16:46:24.024-07:00Bellita,
"Do you, by any chance, remember a...Bellita,<br /><br /><i> "Do you, by any chance, remember an old post of mine that compared the hook up scene to Ancient Roman banquets?" </i> <br /><br />Please refresh my memory! Can't find the post you are referring to.<br /><br /><i> "The "sex is holy" crowd has attracted some real perverts..."<br /> </i> <br />I don't understand, Bell. Would you care to elaborate? I am intrigued by this line of investigation...<br />:-)<br /><br /><br />@ Bill,<br /><br />One criticism of yours and my thinking on this is of course NA-ALT! Which is fair enough. But the point is that people are conditioned a certain way depending on their perceptions or their experiences, and these are equally hard to argue with...<br />A person's perception cannot be argued with, or belittled. That is done at one's peril, I have noticed.Spacetravellerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02202131232540121117noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5312159882790612546.post-60525433971059412732012-07-04T19:09:11.999-07:002012-07-04T19:09:11.999-07:00Wising up, not wishing. Damn auto-complete.
BillWising up, not wishing. Damn auto-complete.<br /><br />BillAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5312159882790612546.post-74372789430051134122012-07-04T19:07:56.911-07:002012-07-04T19:07:56.911-07:00@ SpaceTraveller,
RE your 3 July 0549 post about ...@ SpaceTraveller,<br /><br />RE your 3 July 0549 post about which sort of woman to choose.<br /><br />I'm pretty much with Danny on this one. My order is 1, 5, and 4. I have less confidence in a woman who is divorced than one who remained committed to her husband to his death.<br /><br />No way with 2. BTDT and hated myself.<br /><br />No way with 3, either. I've been a dickstand twice. I am finally wishing up in my middle years. Never again.<br /><br />BillAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5312159882790612546.post-44423486905103150462012-07-04T12:42:22.748-07:002012-07-04T12:42:22.748-07:00@ST
You are correct that having sex and eating ar...@ST <br />You are correct that having sex and eating are not completely analogous. (For one thing, no one will die without sex and therefore no one is entitled to sex . . . or obliged to perform a corporal act of mercy that involves having sex!) Indeed, it would be another huge mistake to go too far down that route, because it would put one's sex partner on the level of one's food! <br /><br />It's just that I've become over-sensitive to those who go too far in the other direction. The "sex is holy" crowd has attracted some real perverts, and I don't think that is a coincidence. <br /><br />I think the safest thing to do is to reiterate that sex was designed for two goods and that those two must always stay married. <br /><br />PS--The one time it <i>is</i> helpful to compare sex and eating is when artificial birth control is on the table. Do you, by any chance, remember an old post of mine that compared the hook up scene to Ancient Roman banquets? ;)Bellitanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5312159882790612546.post-38915847275950593942012-07-04T00:06:58.729-07:002012-07-04T00:06:58.729-07:00masculinity atrracts feminimity and vice versa.
...masculinity atrracts feminimity and vice versa. <br /><br />if i see a woman i'm attracted to, then i want to find out if she has a personality the gels with mine-<br /><br />from there it developes into something or doesn't.dannyfrom504https://www.blogger.com/profile/15213546987325424741noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5312159882790612546.post-41630175309388865282012-07-03T21:23:36.133-07:002012-07-03T21:23:36.133-07:00Danny,
Well, as you know my hamster refuses to di...Danny,<br /><br />Well, as you know my hamster refuses to die. Where's Dogsquat when you need him...<br /><br />;)<br />Thanks for your answers! And your other explanation...Spacetravellerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02202131232540121117noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5312159882790612546.post-29241927928011887002012-07-03T16:50:14.160-07:002012-07-03T16:50:14.160-07:00ST-
1, then 4 and 5.
but what you're doing i...ST-<br /><br />1, then 4 and 5.<br /><br />but what you're doing is typical female rationalization. what attracts men is youth and beauty. the other factors you name are irrelevant to me as a man in regards to attraction. <br /><br />from a moral stand-point, married is off limits. and a woman with kids is a kind of off-putting to me. i can deal with ONE kid, but beyond that....no thanks. <br /><br />in regards to fidelity.....don't get me started.dannyfrom504http://dannyfrom504.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5312159882790612546.post-26704974095987086762012-07-03T16:18:11.117-07:002012-07-03T16:18:11.117-07:00Thanks PVW and Bell for the explanations.
So from...Thanks PVW and Bell for the explanations.<br /><br />So from what you say, sperm and egg donations are out. That makes sense.<br /><br />Bell, I also thought of sex as 'holy' as PVW implied.<br />Not quite sure where this idea comes from, actually, because I see your point.<br /><br />Perhaps it is a kind of helpful filter for those who need to view it this way? What I mean is, thinking about it this way serves a useful purpose?<br />I am positive that it doesn't help to see sex as the same as 'eating'. I think the gluttons amongst us would be in trouble if that were the case ;)Spacetravellerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02202131232540121117noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5312159882790612546.post-86719537513004003732012-07-03T15:10:38.606-07:002012-07-03T15:10:38.606-07:00At Bellita:
A few relatives seem to fall into th...At Bellita: <br /><br />A few relatives seem to fall into that camp...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5312159882790612546.post-10488536662141681072012-07-03T14:58:25.800-07:002012-07-03T14:58:25.800-07:00@PVW
Oh, you've met them, too? ;)@PVW<br />Oh, you've met them, too? ;)Bellitanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5312159882790612546.post-12660162659877356422012-07-03T14:39:36.273-07:002012-07-03T14:39:36.273-07:00Bellita:
I would modify PVW's response so tha...Bellita:<br /><br />I would modify PVW's response so that it says nothing about "the sacred and mystery of reproduction" before I throw my support behind it. Meaning no offense to PVW, I've had reason to become wary of Catholics who have such an idealized understanding of sex. <br /><br />PVW's reply:<br /><br />No offense taken; I'm just describing some of the views I have seen written by traditionalist-minded Catholics who write as public intellectuals.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5312159882790612546.post-81606706905110160222012-07-03T14:36:17.253-07:002012-07-03T14:36:17.253-07:00I would modify PVW's response so that it says ...I would modify PVW's response so that it says nothing about "the sacred and mystery of reproduction" before I throw my support behind it. Meaning no offense to PVW, I've had reason to become wary of Catholics who have such an idealized understanding of sex. It's not holy any more than <i>eating</i> is, although, yes, it is a mark of a Catholic sensibility to have a sacramental understanding of both functions. <br /><br />Suffice it to say that sex was designed to have two goods--namely, union and procreation--and that anything which interferes with this design, by "divorcing" the unitive aspect from the procreative aspect, is "missing the mark." This is so whether two people who are not married are having sex or two people who are married are using artificial contraception. There is a reason that <i>Humanae Vitae</i> (the so-called "birth control encyclical") turned out to be as prophetic as Aldous Huxley's <i>Brave New World</i>.Bellitanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5312159882790612546.post-19374262704577023212012-07-03T14:16:11.542-07:002012-07-03T14:16:11.542-07:00ST:
Do you know the Church's stance on this? ...ST:<br /><br />Do you know the Church's stance on this? I know the Church is dead against IVF, and most other forms of 'assisted conception' but is there a problem with surrogacy/egg/sperm donation?<br /><br />PVW:<br /><br />Although I'm no longer Catholic, I like to read up on religious responses to secular policies like these as they are such hot button issues in the US right now, ie., health care reform. <br /><br />Yes, the Catholic church does object to all of these, because they remove the sacred and mystery from reproduction, turning people into products merely to be used and destroying human dignity, similar type arguments against birth control and IVF.<br /><br />If I remember correctly, Bachiochi's book "Women, Sex and the Church," has a chapter written by a supporter of infertility interventions that don't require IVF and such the like.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5312159882790612546.post-24532604942003136722012-07-03T11:39:16.204-07:002012-07-03T11:39:16.204-07:00Bellita,
"I'd want the child to be with...Bellita,<br /><br /><i> "I'd want the child to be with his or her father, and I'd see my relationship with the father as getting in the way of that." </i> <br /><br />I was about to glibly say 'I agree with you on this'. But actually, I think that may not be the entire truth.<br />Only 'my good unselfish side' agrees with you :-)<br />My other side would not be this magnanimous, I'm afraid...although I would hope that I could be persuaded to 'do the right thing' in a situation like this.<br />Which is precisely why I would try very hard to avoid this type of situation in the first place. <br />Evidently I know myself only too well...<br /><br /><i> "This is probably why I wouldn't go after an unattached man who had had a child with another woman." </i> <br /> <br />Voilà. All my sides agree with <i> this! </i>:-)<br /><br /><i> "It seems incredibly irresponsible to me for a man to give his sperm away, not knowing how it might be used. (I'd say the same about a woman donating her eggs.)" </i> <br /><br />It's not quite the same as donating a kidney, is it? Can you guess my next question, Bell?<br />You guessed right! :-) Do you know the Church's stance on this? I know the Church is dead against IVF, and most other forms of 'assisted conception' but is there a problem with surrogacy/egg/sperm donation?<br /><br /><br /><i> "A woman's personal problems? That's dangerous ground." </i> <br /><br />Hahahahaha!<br />No man should 'go there'. I concur!Spacetravellerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02202131232540121117noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5312159882790612546.post-52180633350413515742012-07-03T07:54:08.263-07:002012-07-03T07:54:08.263-07:00@ST
Professional mistresses?
There is such a thin...@ST <br /><i>Professional mistresses?<br />There is such a thing?! Good grief!</i> <br /><br />I admit that "professional mistress" was my term. But this woman had a history (some might say, a <i>strategy</i>) of going after rich, successful men and offering them discreet, on-the-side sex in exchange for financial perks. I think she had a day job, though. :P <br /><br /><i>Strangely enough, even if he is unattached but has a baby with a woman, I still feel this way.</i> <br /><br />I remember when my mother was watching <i>Oprah</i> and the topic was sperm donation. There was one story of a man who discovered he had a teenage daughter with a woman who had bought his sperm (a complete stranger, of course), only after he was already married. Oprah treated it as a beautiful surprise. I thought it was a <i>travesty</i>. <br /><br />It was great that the girl had grown up safely and well (although I don't know how "well" anyone can grow up with only a single mother), but what if she had been raised by abusive people? I was still a college student when I saw this show, but I think that if I had been the man's wife, I would have insisted that we get a lawyer and sue for custody of his daughter. (This is probably why I wouldn't go after an unattached man who had had a child with another woman. I'd want the child to be with his or her father, and I'd see my relationship with the father as getting in the way of that.) <br /><br />I trace my stance on sperm donation to that <i>Oprah</i> show. It seems incredibly irresponsible to me for a man to give his sperm away, not knowing how it might be used. (I'd say the same about a woman donating her eggs.) The actor with over fifty children I mentioned may be a disgusting lothario, but even he is a better father than that! <br /><br />(We've discussed sperm donation in another thread. JV and I both knew the case of the unethical sperm clinic owner who ended up fathering hundreds of children. He didn't care that they might grow up and marry each other. I was saddened to find out that his wife knew what he was doing and didn't care. And I was shocked to learn that his daughter was a well-known children's novelist whose books I've enjoyed. Now I can't read her books any longer because I wonder if she was privately as sleazy as her parents were.) <br /><br />@Bill <br /><i>I'm an INTJ and being the "hit 'er done" guy has been a part of my persona since my teens.</i> <br /><br />I have a good male friend who is also an INTJ. Your comment reminds me of a blog post he wrote to say that a man should never think he can solve a woman's problems. Other problems in the world? Fine. That's what men do, anyway. A woman's personal problems? That's dangerous ground. <br /><br />My friend was also aware of women who will broadcast their problems (in a way that makes them seem more vulnerable) in order to attract men himself.Bellitanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5312159882790612546.post-1117227764313704092012-07-03T05:55:39.161-07:002012-07-03T05:55:39.161-07:00So my staying away from a married/divorced/'fa...So my staying away from a married/divorced/'father already' man is somewhat paled by <i> your </i> need to stay away from the same in a woman, because whilst all the above in a man would require the woman to have to 'share' resources and I am not necessarily talking <i> financial </i> resources here, although this is very much part of it, (I also mean time/emotional connection etc. all the things that - perhaps illogically - matter to women) for you it could really mean the ultimate bum deal. Theoretically. And I can see men loathe to take even the slightest chance, what with the horror stories about these things we all keep hearing in the news...<br />So in many ways, I really could be persuaded to 'change my mind' much more easily than you, on this, and that would make total sense to me.<br /><br /><br />@ Bill,<br /><br /><i> "I don't think it is just the female side of the INTJ personality." </i> <br /><br />Wow, Bill, this is not something I had noticed yet in INTJ men! And given that I am surrounded by them, I find this surprising on my part. Thanks for educating me on this :-)<br />I always got the impression that they were the ones most likely to say 'pull yourself together!' rather than 'I'll save/mollycuddle you'...<br />But then again, I guess there is a female way and a male way of doing exactly the same thing. (Note to self: don't confuse the two).Spacetravellerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02202131232540121117noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5312159882790612546.post-63002927641629799972012-07-03T05:49:09.751-07:002012-07-03T05:49:09.751-07:00Danny,
"...women LOVE a man in a comitted r...Danny,<br /><br /><i> "...women LOVE a man in a comitted relationship. that's just how it just is. everytime i've had a gf, other girls always came on to me." </i> <br /><br />Do you remember when we had that discussion about 'preselection' and I just couldn't understand why some women do this? I know a lot of men report this same finding as you do, where they seem to attract women the minute they put on their wedding ring...<br />I just don't get it. I really don't.<br />It's nothing to do with religion even. Whilst it's lovely to see a couple together, especially if they look happy together, I must say the man is automatically 'unavailable' to me. Even if he is not married but is with a woman, he is still unavailable to me. Strangely enough, even if he is unattached but has a baby with a woman, I still feel this way. Bellita mentioned that this was also her 'problem' once on her blog, and I so identified with that. Unfortunately for me (and perhaps this last one is a religious thing), this also applies to a divorced man because weirdly enough I have it etched in my brain that one is married forever to one's spouse in God's eyes whether or not the union is broken here on Earth. This is Catholic teaching, as you know, and why the Catholic Church does not look kindly on divorce. It is an untenable position of course, in real life, as this significantly narrows down one's 'pool' and is perhaps unreasonable too. And I have gotten into 'hot water' with lots of people, even with fellow catholics, on this. It's an issue I have to work on, but the point I am trying to make is that all of my above 'restrictions' means that I find it extremely strange that some women are so dfferent from me in this respect. And of course such women would find <i> me </i> to be strange on this, I am well aware!<br /><br />Do you men have this hangup? I fully expect the answer to be yes!<br />If as a single (never married) man, you had the choice between:<br />1. A single (never married) woman<br />2. A mother of whatever marital status<br />3. A married woman (no kids)<br />4. A divorced woman (no kids)<br />5. A widowed woman (no kids)<br /><br />And let's say you are looking for a LTR. How would you rate their appeal to you in descending order(let's say for argument's sake they are all of the same level of attractiveness physically and otherwise)?<br /><br />I realise that to make a comparison between men and women in this way is not fair because the genders are not equal in what they want from the opposite sex. So whilst I almost expect a particular 'order of preference' from you on this, Danny, and I will understand why, I also think that my view on this should <i> not </i> be strange afterall, because ultimately it reflects a certain feminine need much the same way as your choice would reflect a certain masculine need, but in a slightly different way. If you choose the never-married woman as your absloute first choice over the divorced and widowed woman, my guess is that this is only because she has the highest chance of staying loyal to you because she has not lost her heat to someone else prior. Theoretically. (Of course if she has a 'badass' alpha from her past that she lived with for years but just never married him, this advantage she has over the other choices is somewhat diminished). From a woman's point of view, whilst fidelity is about 'don't abandon me and my children', for <i> you, </i> it's even <i> more </i> important because if you cannot guarantee fidelity, you are setting yourself up for the real possibility of raising another man's child. And that, Danny, I would never wish on any man.<br />That to me, is so much worse than a woman with ten kids being abandoned...<br />It just is.Spacetravellerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02202131232540121117noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5312159882790612546.post-91387167024890584952012-07-03T03:49:15.871-07:002012-07-03T03:49:15.871-07:00@ ST and JV,
INTJ women also have this 'savio...@ ST and JV,<br /><br /><i>INTJ women also have this 'saviour complex'...</i><br /><br />I don't think it is just the female side of the INTJ personality.<br /><br />I'm an INTJ and being the "hit 'er done" guy has been a part of my persona since my teens.<br /><br />At work, it has some serious pay-offs. I am the go-to guy for complex problems, especially those that require cooperation across lines of authority within my company.<br /><br />In my personal life, I have had to force myself to throttle this impulse.<br /><br />My second wife spotted this trait in me and used it to rescue herself from self-created disaster. Someone once said that if your in a crooked game and haven't figured out within 20 minutes who is the patsy, that's because it is YOU. It took me a year in that marriage to figure out that I was the patsy.<br /><br />BillAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5312159882790612546.post-59947385889607766522012-07-03T00:41:06.428-07:002012-07-03T00:41:06.428-07:00"You are right, when Tiger neglected to '..."You are right, when Tiger neglected to 'get it out of hs system' so to speak, he paid for it. On the other hand, what if one is unable to 'get it out of one's system' ever? There IS a slight risk of that in men."<br /><br />Chris Rock nailed it when he said, it's HARD to turn down p***y. seriously. and women LOVE a man in a comitted relationship. that's just how it just is. everytime i've had a gf, other girls always came on to me.dannyfrom504http://dannyfrom504.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5312159882790612546.post-53687438815900791902012-07-02T23:21:58.745-07:002012-07-02T23:21:58.745-07:00@ JV,
"By no means immune to sticking my ne...@ JV,<br /><br /><i> "By no means immune to sticking my neck out and getting it chopped." </i> <br /><br />Somehow, I couldn't help but laugh out loud at this. Even though I know you didn't mean it to be funny.<br />I am often to be found headless...<br />But I just 'can't help myself'.<br />Is this an excuse or should I be pleased that I can't shake off this burden?<br />Is there virtue in being a 'saviour'?<br />Or is it a sin?<br />Saint or sinner - which is it? Or should there be a middle ground that I should aim for?<br />I find it hard to find 'middle ground' in anything I do lol. I am rather fond of the extremes :-)<br />But I can see it might not be a good thing...<br /><br />Although, the extreme HAS been a good thing for me one or two significant occasions...Spacetravellerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02202131232540121117noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5312159882790612546.post-38889665385460706702012-07-02T23:11:14.507-07:002012-07-02T23:11:14.507-07:00@ Danny,
"...this is the very reason i thin...@ Danny,<br /><br /><i> "...this is the very reason i think guys should wait until their 30's to get married. it's just a phase us guys go through." </i><br /> <br />Believe it or not, Danny, I agree with you!!! More and more, I am seeing the wisdom in this...<br />Although Dalrock insists that the age at which the <i> text </i> woman marries is the deciding factor as to whether it will work (i.e. late 20s, early 30s being 'the sweet spot' which equates to the pinnacle time for her maturity/fertility/'readiness' for marriage. I realise now that by association, the man she marries will have to be slightly older than this, i.e. middle to late 30s (as women in general tend not to marry younger men due to hypergamy).<br />I see the wisdom in what you say.<br /><br />Having a 'harem' if you are unattached, whilst wouldn't appeal to many people - men or women, is actually not anyone else's business, I guess. I believe it is more important to be 'done' with that by the time one is ready to marry. You are right, when Tiger neglected to 'get it out of hs system' so to speak, he paid for it. On the other hand, what if one is unable to 'get it out of one's system' ever? There IS a slight risk of that in men. That risk is quadrupled in women of course...<br /><br /><br />@ Bellita,<br /><br />Wow, more and more, I am liking the sound of the Philippines :-) Even when we are talking about a topic such as concubinage, the Filipinos do it better compared to everyone else - i.e. 'better' in the sense that things are done with decorum such that at least the best of the situation is made. The actor with 50 kids is a prime example. That he has 50 kids is not ideal, but at least he makes the best of it. That says something about him, and also about the culture he comes from.<br /><br /><i> "The insulting implication was that every woman sells sex. Some just have a more socially sanctioned "price" than others."<br /> </i> <br />So true :-)<br />If one looks at it this way, life suddenly becomes very simple :-)<br /><br />Professional mistresses?<br />There is such a thing?! Good grief!<br /><br />I didn't actually know Gordon Ramsay had a mistress. But I see that this 'entitlement' complex when applied by mistresses is rather distasteful. It is another of those 'hamster' justifications in the realm of 'And I am not ashamed to say it!' because the woman knows she is doing wrong but tries very hard to make it good in her head, failing miserably and trying even harder as a result. It's pretty ugly. But I can see why this happens. In this case the hamster is perhaps a very good 'face saver'. Mistresses need to save face, especially to themselves.<br /><br />@ PVW,<br /><br /><i> "There was no way I was going to be party to him acting unethically in his relationship to his girlfriend." </i> <br /><br />I like your thinking here. Not only would it have dented <i> your </i> self-esteem to be part of this 'arrangement', it would also have allowed him to do wrong to his girlfriend. In this sense you prevented another woman from getting hurt. Good karma for you :-)<br /><br />I think part of this whole issue is the notion of selfishness. 'I'll have what I want, damn the consequences' HAS to be the attitude of a woman who embarks on a relationship with an attached man, no? Sure, there are always externuating circumstances (I have no doubt that it is never so simple) but...there has to be an element of 'I come first' here, I feel.<br />And of course the same goes for the married/attached man (no excuses for him either).Spacetravellerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02202131232540121117noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5312159882790612546.post-35659845633043764572012-07-02T21:38:57.527-07:002012-07-02T21:38:57.527-07:00"But what happens where a man is clearly marr..."But what happens where a man is clearly married, and the peripheral women know he is married, ala Tiger Woods?<br />Why is this scenario so common?"<br /><br />the problem with tiger is what happens when you take someone who didn't get to exercize his "seed spreading" days, and got married to essentially a supermodel before he really became a celebrity. <br /><br />then he got VERY famough and VERY rich. suddenly he was banging sluts. and let's be honest, those women were sluts and pornstars.<br /><br />this is the very reason i think guys should wait until their 30's to get married. it's just a phase us guys go through.<br /><br />re- harems. *AHEM* everyone's aware of my little unique sitiuation withe a few women in the 504 area code. and let's just say, 2 or 3 of the gitls know each other and "our business" remains between me and the girl. if they talk about it among themselves, i don't care. but i don't rub their noses in the fact that i have more than women that i sleep with. <br /><br />i don't see it as anything brag-worthy. i really don't but they also all know i AM relationship minded and i respect them all on a personal level. <br /><br />the same way Brody repsects his "harem" and my "blog ho's" don't mind the title. lol.dannyfrom504http://dannyfrom504.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5312159882790612546.post-4751267323326280302012-07-02T16:11:33.964-07:002012-07-02T16:11:33.964-07:00@Bellita
I suppose the ethics gets even more unco...@Bellita<br /><br />I suppose the ethics gets even more uncomfortable when the situation comes to arranged marriages and chosen mistresses.just visitingnoreply@blogger.com