tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5312159882790612546.post1927640359922348890..comments2023-11-02T08:41:44.231-07:00Comments on The Sanctuary: Hitting the wallSpacetravellerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02202131232540121117noreply@blogger.comBlogger80125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5312159882790612546.post-78983691289443165242017-01-04T05:50:48.601-08:002017-01-04T05:50:48.601-08:00Ladies,
Want to lessen the visual impact of The W...Ladies,<br /><br />Want to lessen the visual impact of The Wall? For the love of God DO NOT CUT YOUR HAIR OFF! Bryanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04150440048475506236noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5312159882790612546.post-19669340195315344602015-04-15T01:37:39.997-07:002015-04-15T01:37:39.997-07:00Anonymous at Feb 23,
Excellent advice! I hope man...Anonymous at Feb 23,<br /><br />Excellent advice! I hope many women take this to heart.<br /><br />The bit about 'colourful pasts' is a difficult one, and I think you negotiated it very well. In the event a woman has a 'colourful past' it is unfair (to her future husband) if she is silent about it. On the other hand, she must not go on and on about it, because it is distasteful to the man she is now with, and may indicate that she loves to remember the past...<br /><br />Happy medium, yes.<br /><br />Of course, best not to have a colourful past in the first place...and if you do, forfeit marriage altogether.<br />Perhaps this is harsh...?<br /><br />I sure agree with you that it is best for a woman to 'settle' way before she hits that wall. Makes things easier for her.<br /><br />But...in this day and age, having s desire to marry does not mean you actually do, what with the MGTOW crowd ruining it for us :)<br />Just teasing! :P<br /><br />Everyone has to wait longer than they wish, because we are all extra cautious, extra confused, extra jaded than our grandparents. And it will be women who pay the price as it is us who need marriage more than men do.<br /><br />Arggghhh, the trials of life...Spacetravellerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02202131232540121117noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5312159882790612546.post-8075499916309032732015-02-23T18:40:51.948-08:002015-02-23T18:40:51.948-08:00The advice I am giving is for women not men. I wou...The advice I am giving is for women not men. I would tell you to "settle" before you hit the wall. No man wants to end up with a woman that gave the most attractive years of her life to other men then offers up the vestige of her health and beauty right before it is gone. Men want shared memories of time spent together while you still had your sex appeal and when his sex drive was more potent (no I don't need Viagra).<br /><br />I would also bury any photo albums of your past that show a vibrant younger version of you because you don't want to remind him of what he will never have.<br /><br />If you had a colorful past don't go into detail about it. At the same time acknowledge you had one, guys hate women that slut it up then try to pass themselves off as ladies later in life. When we find out (and we will) that we were deceived into viewing you in a certain light the carpet gets pulled out from under you.<br /><br />FYI<br />Women that are approaching the wall go out of their way to flirt with me when they used to ignore me and look away.<br /><br />Women that have hit the wall offer me sex and I am not interested. <br /><br />You want someone to hold hands with, love you and walk through the park in the last 30 years of your life then you need to "settle" now!.<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /> Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5312159882790612546.post-3846441244219115522012-11-07T03:34:48.586-08:002012-11-07T03:34:48.586-08:00Salut!
ST:
J'adore les quebecois.
Moi: M...Salut!<br /><br />ST: <br /><br />J'adore les quebecois. <br /><br />Moi: Mais bien sur; ils sont tres adorables! Nous aimons visiter au Quebec, des vacances amusants.<br /><br />ST: Nous, on est tous africains dans la famille :-)<br /><br />Moi: Ah bien; j'ai plusieurs des etudiants comme vous. Leurs parents sont africains; ils sont grandi aux Etats Unis. Je ne suis pas certaines; ils sont nes en Afrique ou aux Etats....<br /><br />ST: C'est hypersympa d'être 'polyglot'<br /><br />Moi: Absolument; je suis jalouse! PVWhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12410310404539584350noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5312159882790612546.post-38843698654985465622012-11-07T01:28:29.446-08:002012-11-07T01:28:29.446-08:00PVW,
:-)
J'adore les quebecois. Il y en a be...PVW,<br /><br />:-)<br /><br />J'adore les quebecois. Il y en a beaucoup ici en Suisse...<br /><br />Nous, on est tous africains dans la famille :-)<br /><br />C'est hypersympa d'être 'polyglot'. Je trouve ça superb parce qu'on pourrait communiquer avec beaucoup de monde... en leur propre langue...<br />Spacetravellerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02202131232540121117noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5312159882790612546.post-49195634450725511122012-11-03T14:24:38.859-07:002012-11-03T14:24:38.859-07:00Salut, ST, PVW, encore...J'ai etudie francais...Salut, ST, PVW, encore...J'ai etudie francais au lycee, et M. PVW est quebecois...C'est magnifique, que vous etes "polyglot." Votre mere est africaine, votre pere?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5312159882790612546.post-34833380239426199202012-11-02T23:30:13.168-07:002012-11-02T23:30:13.168-07:00JV,
Scorpionic energy??
Metak,
I know the feeli...JV,<br /><br />Scorpionic energy??<br /><br />Metak,<br /><br />I know the feeling re having to negotiate life in several languages...<br /><br />@ PVW,<br /><br />Ah, vous aussi, vous êtes bilingue?<br />Impec!<br /><br />Pour répondre à votre question, il faut savoir que, moi, j'avais pas le choix. J'ai vecu dans differents pays dans ma vie...et ma mère est professeur de langues...<br />Français, allemand, italien, norvegien, un peu d'hollandais, et bien sûr à cause de norvegien, je comprends aussi un peu de danois et suédois.<br />Il y a aussi mes langues maternelles africaines - il y en a deux.<br /><br />Je crois que ça suffit pour l'instant :-)<br /><br />Spacetravellerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02202131232540121117noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5312159882790612546.post-6396175600180443762012-11-02T17:08:25.595-07:002012-11-02T17:08:25.595-07:00ST, C'est pvw; combien de langues parlez-vous?...ST, C'est pvw; combien de langues parlez-vous? Lesquelles?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5312159882790612546.post-60229463176542684122012-11-02T16:37:34.581-07:002012-11-02T16:37:34.581-07:00@ Ceer
Metak isn't a troll. But his views on ...@ Ceer<br /><br />Metak isn't a troll. But his views on mastery and MGTOW come from a different viewpoint than the sphere. just visiting.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5312159882790612546.post-12340084878473334922012-11-02T16:31:58.512-07:002012-11-02T16:31:58.512-07:00@ Metak
Your philosophy mirrors mine a lot of min...@ Metak<br /><br />Your philosophy mirrors mine a lot of mine.<br /><br />@ Metak<br />Re the manosphere<br /><br />Scorpionic energy. Your vantage is from the eagle/phoenix. <br /><br /><br /><br /><br />just visitingnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5312159882790612546.post-1771671672938308102012-11-02T15:22:26.642-07:002012-11-02T15:22:26.642-07:00@ Ceer,
It's Friday night madness at The Sanc...@ Ceer,<br /><br />It's Friday night madness at The Sanctuary!<br /><br />@ Metak,<br /><br />Nevidni zid? Ampak vidim, da Metak!<br /><br />Hahahahaha!<br />I really hope Google is saying to you what I intend and not something rude or crude.<br /><br />Spacetravellerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02202131232540121117noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5312159882790612546.post-7510832205876389922012-11-02T14:29:55.605-07:002012-11-02T14:29:55.605-07:00@ Metak & This Old Man
Troll harder.@ Metak & This Old Man<br /><br />Troll harder.Ceernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5312159882790612546.post-3526700508538843132012-11-02T14:12:00.555-07:002012-11-02T14:12:00.555-07:00"Hey Metak, like you, I think better in anoth...<i>"Hey Metak, like you, I think better in another language, sometimes."</i><br /><br />It's insane... for the most part I think and communicate with my family and friends in Serbo-Croatian (Bosnian-my native language), interact with other people around me in Slovenia in Slovenian language then I read and write in English... plus make up jokes and such in English... Spanish and Italian were also there among others but they've decided that I wasn't thinking enough 'flowery' thoughts in their language and decided to leave... ;-) Vafancul* to them! ;-)<br /><br />When I say 'translate' I'm referring mostly to process of writting down of my own thoughts. I'm also using Google translate occasinally.<br /><br /><i>"Write to us in Slovenian from time to time. Whyever not?"</i><br /><br />Lahko bi ti pisal, ST, o mnogih stvareh. O lepoti življenja, o lepoti ljubezni, o lepoti, ki se skriva v najmanjši malenkosti. Rekel bi ti, da ne obstaja kaj takega, kot je nevidni zid. Predvsem pa rekel bi ti, da ne skrbi. ;-)metaknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5312159882790612546.post-34685658878237268582012-11-02T13:00:21.574-07:002012-11-02T13:00:21.574-07:00Metak,
No, I read your comment as you intended! N...Metak,<br /><br />No, I read your comment as you intended! No worries...<br /><br />I really do appreciate that you care. This is one thing I adore about you.<br />And, I am not addicted to The Manosphere, lol.<br />I take the good bits and leave out the rest...<br /><br />And, as I also said to Ceer, I hope that we ladies also offer something in return. If for nothing, at least for the 'female perspective' that may be unfamiliar to you men.<br /><br />@ TOM,<br /><br />Le petit prince! En fait, c'est la belle Bellita qui est expert dans ce domaine. Moi, je l'ai lu quand j'étais petite, parce qu'à l'époque je vivais dans le monde francophone...<br /><br />Vous avez raison: On ne voit bien qu'avec le coeur. Pour moi, l'essentiel est d'avoir un coeur plein d'amour et de la sincérité...<br /><br />Je vous ècoute. Le Manosphere, c'est qu'un outil pour me préparer mieux pour cette vie d'adulte. Rien que ça. <br />Mais il faut pas oublier que chacun son service dans ce monde. Je m'en sers parce qu'il est à dispo, ce qui est bien. Je fais pas d'histoire...<br />Je prends n'import quel conseil, de n'importe qui, si ça va m'aider...<br /><br /><br />:-)<br /><br />Hey Metak, like you, I think better in another language, sometimes.<br /><br />Write to us in Slovenian from time to time. Whyever not?<br /><br />For one, what's Google translator for, otherwise?<br /><br />:-)<br /><br />Spacetravellerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02202131232540121117noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5312159882790612546.post-82771962063686209572012-11-02T12:31:23.379-07:002012-11-02T12:31:23.379-07:00@ST & TOM
That came out wrong... I meant me-y...@ST & TOM<br /><br />That came out wrong... I meant me-young fool. ;-)<br /><br />Sorry, I think in Slovenian and then translate that directly into English.. Sorry :-)<br /><br />@TOM<br /><br />Fear everywhere...metaknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5312159882790612546.post-60462762851171404072012-11-02T12:20:29.897-07:002012-11-02T12:20:29.897-07:00Metak,
I don’t think it is foolishness, its fear....Metak,<br /><br />I don’t think it is foolishness, its fear. I think she was born on a blue sphere and heard its music and found it so discordant she searched for a way out. Showing great courage she traveled to a red sphere which, from a distance seemed much better. But the music of that sphere was also discordant so, she has lost hope and is busy looking at the ground and covering hear ears so she won’t have to listen. If she would only do like a Little Prince I once heard of and look up to the stars, she could then see her home where she belongs.<br /><br />On ne voit bien qu'avec le cœur. L'essentiel est invisible pour les yeux (Antoine de Saint-Exupéry, 1943).<br />This Old Manhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06071185173394562522noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5312159882790612546.post-31126512961790908372012-11-02T10:39:26.474-07:002012-11-02T10:39:26.474-07:00At least I've tried to explain it to you as if...At least I've tried to explain it to you as if you were 6 years old.. ;-)<br />I failed.. ;-) The addiction to sphere-shaped objects is too strong... ;-)<br /><br />Like always I'm giving you crumbs... to show you the bigger picture... to remind you what really matters...<br /><br /><i>"Looks disappearing nothwithstanding, there is also the fertility declining issue."</i><br /><br />You mean.. we're alive.. we age.. and why should we live our lives to our full potential and be happy when we can obsess about imaginary things...? ;-)<br /><br /><i>"I like the concept of the wall, because it reminds me of the biological clock."</i><br /><br />If you're going to look at the world in that way, then there will be walls everywhere around you...<br />- fading looks -> hitting the wall<br />- biological clock -> another wall...<br />- Manosphere -> yep, you guesed it.. another wall..<br />- ... etc.<br /><br />Those men in Manosphere don't give a (you know what) about women. Among all those blogs and what not you would expect at least some of them to show some humanity, compassion or some kind of emotion when it comes to women. I don't see men with good intentions writting blogs and informing men how Birth Control Drugs are destroying women's health and killing them, how make up and other products contain toxins that are easily absorbed through a skin of a woman, that's much more sensitive than that of a man, and later end up in tumoirs of brest cancer patients... I mentioned the abortion bussines the last time... I could go on and on... But they are too busy making up ridiculous new ideas to keep women insecure, submissive, and willing to do things that they normaly wouldn't do...<br /><br />http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2085585/Parabens-Chemical-everyday-items-needs-investigation-scientists-discover-tumours-ALL-breast-cancer-patients.html<br /><br />http://www.tbyil.com/FDA_Scandal_Drospirenone.htm<br /><br />You can ignore me, young fool, but please, women should at least consider TOM's advice:<br /><br /><i>"If so you have to ask yourself, what kind of man do you want?<br />Is it a man of substance, of compassion, understanding and wisdom? A man who recognizes and respects the integrity and substance in you?"</i><br /><br />..or PVW's:<br /><br /><i>"Yes, it is true, you are unmarried, but why obsess over it, really? All that matters is that you keep yourself in shape and live well. What else are you going to do?"</i><br /><br />I'm saying this because I care... ;-)metaknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5312159882790612546.post-14359529248959608722012-11-02T07:14:10.542-07:002012-11-02T07:14:10.542-07:00Metak,
I think JV outlines why I think there is i...Metak,<br /><br />I think JV outlines why I think there is indeed a wall.<br /><br />Looks disappearing nothwithstanding, there is also the fertility declining issue.<br /><br />I like the concept of the wall, because it reminds me of the biological clock.<br />Blue Pill world encourages women to forget all about the biological clock. 'Oh, don't worry, you still have sooooo much time!' (This said to a 42 year old woman in my presence recently).<br />Which is absolutely fine for those who don't want children.<br />For the rest of us however...<br /><br />But you are right: no point getting obsessed by it...<br />(Says she who has written a whole post about it, lol).<br /><br />Grasshopper,<br /><br />Believe it or not, I think CD had a lot to contribute too!<br />I did not expel her, she chose not to visit The Sanctuary anymore. (Um, yes, I admit, I wasn't particularly charming to her at first, when I saw her comment about Tom Munson, but she apologised, and we made up. At least that's how I remember things).<br /><br />Yes we disagreed a lot, because our views on life are entirely different, even though we have quite a bit in common.<br />But it was difficult to get used to err... her way of expressing herself. But I managed to get there. Pity she left just as I was getting used to her style.<br /><br />So I understand if TOM's style had a similar effect on you.<br />I get it.<br />Perhaps on another topic, you and he might have the same viewpoint.<br /><br />Like I am sure there are things CD and I can agree upon.<br /><br />@ Bob,<br /><br />Yes how sad. But I would hope that post wall, it would still be possible for them to have fulfilling lives, with or without the husband and children.<br />Especially those for whom life just dealt a harsh blow, and not because they necessarily made bad choices.<br />Spacetravellerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02202131232540121117noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5312159882790612546.post-12408303907696060382012-11-02T04:39:53.314-07:002012-11-02T04:39:53.314-07:00I've seen women who were very attractive and p...I've seen women who were very attractive and popular when younger, who for various reasons missed out on home, husband and children (mostly, in my experience, because they wanted so much but had so little to offer), then when they hit that wall, turned into hostile spinsters, angry with and contempuous of men, blaming their problems on them, and living alone in an apartment with a cat, and on anti-depressants.<br /><br />I recently had a guy tell me he's from southern California and he's met these kind of women by the thousands.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16046202647270439670noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5312159882790612546.post-5335982418218608102012-11-01T20:57:15.864-07:002012-11-01T20:57:15.864-07:00@ST… “… I am really baffled as to the response to ...@ST… “… I am really baffled as to the response to TOM...”<br /><br />I can understand your bewilderment to a point. I too was bewildered as I witnessed the fall out between you and CD some months back now. I thought her contributions were excellent just as you think TOM’s are. I never understood why the two of you react to each other the way that you do. <br /><br />To be clear I am not asking you for an explanation about this. TOM impacts me I suppose in a similar way that CD impacts you. The analogy is not a perfect fit but it is the best ‘explain it to me like I’m a 6 year old’ way (to borrow a phrase you commonly use) I can come up with right now to address your inquiry. <br /><br />That understood, I’ve decided to drop out of attempting to dialog with TOM. This is after all your internet home and I am here as your guest. You’ve made it clear he is welcome here also. <br /><br />Grasshopper<br />Grasshoppernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5312159882790612546.post-42744761797277004972012-11-01T16:10:50.470-07:002012-11-01T16:10:50.470-07:00@ST & JV
Your mind maybe sees it that way.. n...@ST & JV<br /><br />Your mind maybe sees it that way.. now quiet the mind and let the heart to remove the wall that shouldn't even be there.. What say you? ;-)<br /><br />We exist, we learn, we play, we grow,... there's no room for invisible walls..<br /><br />-- Crazy Evil Mastermind has divised his most evil and cunning plan to create his ultimate superweapon capable of unimaginable destructive power...<br /><br />Mastermind: I shall create a weapon capable of destroying entire continents!! And then.. I, will rule the world! Muahahahahaha<br />Evil-sidekick: Oooo... Master, you truly are genius. But where are you going to get all the enormous quantity of energy that will power up such a device?<br />Mastermind: SMACK! (smacks the sidekick on the head) You fool! All I have to do is plant a few ideas inside the subconscious mind of women and I'm done! Piece of pie! ;-)<br />Evil-sidekick: Master, no one can even come close to your fabulous intellect and malevolence...<br />Mastermind: You weasel... ;-)<br />Evil-sidekick: ..but Master.. I don't understand how is that going to give us the energy we need?<br />Mastermind: I've calculated that large numbers of women spend so much of their energy worying about their insecurities, invisible walls, funny looking pills and all kinds of crazy sh*t... so, I've decided to harness all that energy and use it as a weapon. You may applaud now... ;-)<br />Evil-sidekick: Brilliant, Master... simply brilliant... at least now, we'll have a chance against that super-cute kitty on youtube... ;-)<br /><br />P.S. Don't be an accomplice. ;-)metaknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5312159882790612546.post-68405764511569347262012-11-01T14:56:06.323-07:002012-11-01T14:56:06.323-07:00I think that it comes down to being your best poss...I think that it comes down to being your best possible self. <br /><br />The wall takes on a heavy reality for women who are getting older who want marriage and children. There is a very real wall of time, at least with children if you want to have your own. <br /><br />But, I think that self development, femininity,charm,physical fitness and a kind and cheerful personality improves the odds. I would just caution women to also be aware of their mindset. <br /><br />just visitingnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5312159882790612546.post-10371131572649079902012-11-01T14:50:42.460-07:002012-11-01T14:50:42.460-07:00@ Grasshopper and Ceer,
OK. I now can see that ne...@ Grasshopper and Ceer,<br /><br />OK. I now can see that neither of you have any complaints about the advice TOM gave to women.<br />You have separate issues which you have both outlined...<br /><br />Ceer,<br />About the 'placing emotion' in the interaction, you may notice that that is one of my traits too :-)<br /><br />You may readily forgive ME for that, because I am a woman.<br />But TOM may also have this trait due to how things were done in his time (correct me if I am wrong, TOM) and therefore maybe he too should get a 'pass' because of this?<br /><br />Is this what prompted Gunner to question if he was a man?<br /><br />Interesting how different styles can sometimes cause offence even where this might not be anticipated.<br /><br /><i> "One reason why I hang out at female run blogs is that I enjoy helping good women avoid a fate that, to me, they don't deserve." </i> <br /><br />Aw, thanks Ceer!<br />Hope we ladies of the blogosphere can return the favour to the men who look out for us.<br />It's nice that we can learn from each other, albeit in anonymous fashion.<br /><br />PVW,<br /><br />Yes, I see what you are getting at.<br />There is no doubt that some men openly delight in the arrival of some womens' nemesis.<br />And innocent people sometimes get caught up in guilty people's war...<br /><br />@ Metak,<br /><br /><i> "I think you missed the core of TOM's advice ST. ;-) It doesn't matter if woman doesn't achieve all those 'goals' TOM described. The main point as far as I can see it is the atitude towards herself and the world around her." </i> <br /><br />Oh I see his advice as such too!<br />I see his advice as a way for women to become their best selves.<br /><br />I am not sure I could detox myself from the Manosphere, Metak. I think I am in too deep.<br />:-)<br /><br />The Manosphere, for me, is already a sort of rehab facility that detoxes from feminist 'rehab from rehab'?<br />LOL.<br /><br />Spacetravellerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02202131232540121117noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5312159882790612546.post-4202557130376434482012-11-01T14:26:50.350-07:002012-11-01T14:26:50.350-07:00Dwelling on the wall is counter productive to good...Dwelling on the wall is counter productive to good dating. Self improvement is always good, but I think Metak would agree that one should strive for improvement through out life. Wall or no wall.<br /><br />Some of the guys in the sphere take delight in it. And if that's their head space, then that's their head space. I can't date properly with that mindset. Taken to extremes, I could only imagine that it would create desperation,depression or an inferiority complex. Not exactly the makings of a fun date,lol.<br />just visitingnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5312159882790612546.post-80114831007773027522012-11-01T12:55:49.667-07:002012-11-01T12:55:49.667-07:00@ PVW
The wall as something that operates against...@ PVW<br /><br />The wall as something that operates against a woman's interests, but it's also a part of nature. <br /><br />Manosphere men tend to bring up the wall to men and women for different reasons. For men, we sometimes need reminding that women are not invincible. They have their own difficulties in life. They have their own hopes and fears that can affect their choices. It's important information to us have. When a man operates based on his own experiences only, he risks loosing perspective. <br /><br />For women, its provides insight into a potential difficulty so they can navigate around it. It's true that a woman can hit the wall whether or not she rides the carousel. To me, it speaks more to a woman's choices, not necessarily her morality. One reason why I hang out at female run blogs is that I enjoy helping good women avoid a fate that, to me, they don't deserve. Ceernoreply@blogger.com