tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5312159882790612546.post7077881245313544218..comments2023-11-02T08:41:44.231-07:00Comments on The Sanctuary: The shock factorSpacetravellerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02202131232540121117noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5312159882790612546.post-60749247014931072202012-03-16T15:53:21.176-07:002012-03-16T15:53:21.176-07:00@ NC,
I see. Interesting.
Thanks for the explanat...@ NC,<br /><br />I see. Interesting.<br />Thanks for the explanation.Spacetravellerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02202131232540121117noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5312159882790612546.post-17460332741477295242012-03-16T12:33:00.542-07:002012-03-16T12:33:00.542-07:00Spacetraveller said...
"Could you please ela...Spacetraveller said...<br /><br />"Could you please elaborate?<br /><br />Why do I get the feeling I am about to be educated on something I have never ever heard before? :-)"<br /><br /><br />It's simple enough. A particular set of rules, more or less arbitrary, designate toilet humor as a low form of entertainment, less classy, or whatever description you care to assign to it. My basic assertion is, entertainment is itself its own reward, that laughing, regardless of the subject of laughter, is good for humans. Granted, there are exceptions, we don't laugh at another person's illness or infirmity. Some comedians say nothing is sacred, however.<br /><br />But shocking humor still makes us think, as well as sometimes making us laugh... as long as no one gets hurt, why not make up a fart joke? Irreverence for established rules can be taken to extremes, certainly, but questioning authority has produced a lot of growth in human society, as history has shown, repeatedly. <br /><br />Some people say art should make us think, that challenging preconceptions or rules is how we grow as a sentient species. Is not comedy an art form, more or less? Leaving aside the snide wine and cheese crowd, comedy has always been a mirror held up by a few philosophers to the accepted norms of society. Look at Dante and his Divine Comedy, Socrates and his celebrated form of argument. Just because they're now considered to be classic examples of human thought, does not mean they weren't funny in their day. Diogenes and his lamp, searching for an honest man...<br /><br />Throughout history, humor has often been the only approved method of challenging human society to examine itself. Freedom of speech is relatively new, and actually quite rare, worldwide. Yet even in repressive regimes such as Fascist Italy, Nazi Germany, or Communist Russia, humor could not be shut down, even with the most brutal of dictators.<br /><br />Does this mean all comedy is of such grand elegant societal examination? Of course not, nor should it be. Sometimes, a good belly laugh is the best reward of all.<br /><br />The Navy CorpsmanAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5312159882790612546.post-71325035362480228332012-03-16T03:02:15.921-07:002012-03-16T03:02:15.921-07:00@ NC,
"...there is something to be said for...@ NC,<br /><br /><i> "...there is something to be said for shock/irreverence." </i> <br />Could you please elaborate?<br /><br />Why do I get the feeling I am about to be educated on something I have never ever heard before? :-)Spacetravellerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02202131232540121117noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5312159882790612546.post-13035940043125951012012-03-15T10:29:58.858-07:002012-03-15T10:29:58.858-07:00Yup, although I also realize that their mother wou...Yup, although I also realize that their mother would have been the automatic role model due to gender. The key would have been to know when to quit, which would be something I'd watch my children carefully for, for clues. I did that with the boys, and started about four or five years old, shortly before they began school, teaching them how the funny words might still be funny, but only in certain places and certain times, and that school was definitely not one of those places.<br /><br />Sure, there were embarrassing moments. Sure, I got the 'look' from my wife more than once. But the boys and I had a lot of fun, making fun of the 'rules', and that's memories and good times that will live forever in my mind and theirs. My wife also knew that it was fun sometimes to break rules, especially when no one else was around to see it (coughcough). <br /><br />But there are rules that are inviolable, like the time my eldest made fun of a kid with cerebral palsy. He didn't sit down for a week. His second eldest son recently made fun of a child with Down's. He didn't sit down for a week. Knowing which rules to bend/break is the hard part of parenting... and sometimes, the fun part, too.<br /><br />The Navy CorpsmanAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5312159882790612546.post-23040889767446282302012-03-15T10:08:56.402-07:002012-03-15T10:08:56.402-07:00@ NC,
Would you have done the same if you had dau...@ NC,<br /><br />Would you have done the same if you had daughters?Spacetravellerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02202131232540121117noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5312159882790612546.post-40439601808129663922012-03-14T18:08:47.851-07:002012-03-14T18:08:47.851-07:00I fully admit I taught my boys all the dirty words...I fully admit I taught my boys all the dirty words while my wife wasn't around. I figured I was going to get blamed for it anyway....<br /><br /><br />Seriously, I cannot speak for anyone else, but there is something to be said for shock/irreverence. Of course, mostly I'm irrelevant, not irreverent.<br /><br />The Navy CorpsmanAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5312159882790612546.post-79659317107272298632012-03-14T11:52:57.984-07:002012-03-14T11:52:57.984-07:00@ Bill,
Yes. A question always sounds less abrupt...@ Bill,<br /><br />Yes. A question always sounds less abrupt than a statement...don't you think?<br /><br />:-)Spacetravellerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02202131232540121117noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5312159882790612546.post-14638831756748918092012-03-13T19:56:52.506-07:002012-03-13T19:56:52.506-07:00Correction: "Don't you think red is a bea...Correction: "Don't you think red is a beautiful color?"<br /><br />This line may not have been in the film, but this was in the interview, as best I recall.<br /><br />BillAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5312159882790612546.post-71606550147502049662012-03-13T13:59:27.251-07:002012-03-13T13:59:27.251-07:00I recall an interview with Dustin Hoffman about hi...I recall an interview with Dustin Hoffman about his role in <i>Tootsie</i>, where he described trying to find the character's voice. He said he had work with the director and the scriptwriter to change Dorothy Michaels' dialog. <br /><br />In order for her to sound more like a woman than a man speaking falsetto, many of her statements were rephrased to end as questions.<br /><br />Instead of, "Red is a beautiful color," she'd say, "Red is a beautiful color, don't you think?"<br /><br />BillAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com