Showing posts with label Ali G. Show all posts
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Saturday, June 9, 2012

Game lessons from INTJ behaviour...and naughty comedians

Everyone has a cross to bear in life. Some heavier than others.

Mine appears to be ...  INTJs :-)
Wherever I go, I seem to trip up on them.

I thought I could escape them in real life by hiding out in internet-land.
Only to find that internet-land is absolutely swarming with these fellas :-)

Danny, here's looking at you, Maestro.
And I am pretty sure Brody is INTJ too :-)

When I read this post of Danny's, it made me laugh out loud, because I have seen this in action my whole life.

Bellita, I think it was, who said, quoting her Mum, 'Whatever you resist, persists'.

With this in mind, I shan't fight it anymore.
Forevermore, I shall be subject to INTJ craziness :-)

But it's not all bad with these guys.
Far from it.

One thing I notice about them (which tickles my fancy no end) is their ability to 'send people up'.
I am not sure if this british expression is understood by non-Brits.

Just in case it isn't, I guess it is similar to the Game concept of 'agree and amplify', except it is done more 'actively' rather than passively in response to the 'victim's' own deluded thinking, as is the case in 'agree and amplify'.

To be perfectly honest, much as I am an avid Game advocate, I don't feel it is my place to study it in any great depth, other than enough to appreciate its nuances, as I understand that:

1. I wouldn't want to diminish or dilute its effect on me when I am its 'recipient', and
2. I am as likely to need to learn Game for myself as a bald man needs a comb.

So I know the basics, and not much more.
But I was keen to try out my newfound knowledge when Danny asked his masterclass students to point out the Game concepts as demonstrated in this film.

Easily distracted creature that I am, however, even though I went on to review this film in not one but two posts, I still did not answer Danny's questions about the Game concepts, and touched on everything but Game in my wordy reviews :-)

So here is 'Firelight Take 3: the Game concepts Danny was on about' :-)

But first (yes, I digress a lot!), back to INTJs, I notice that part of their apparent lack of 'social graces' stems from the fact that they hate to be boxed in to societal boundaries.
I am sure Danny will confirm this.
Prince Charles sums it up best when he expressly declares his disdain at being 'ever the performing monkey' when he has to perform his royal duties...

Prince Philip might well be an INTJ, at least when it comes to this. I think his so-called 'gaffes' which seem antisocial to most, are actually a manifestation of his weird sense of humour which he feels no need to curb even in situations which call for this type of restraint.
So he will 'send people up' and end up 'getting people's backs up'.

What's more, I always wonder why the Queen never seems upset when he does this, even in her presence.
I think I have an explanation for this too.

INTJs are indeed private and even secretive individuals. (I have never met a female one, but despte their relative rarity, I know the internet is absolutely crawling with them in disproportion to their relative numbers in real life :-)
INTJs live in a world of their own. But occasionally, they get tired of their own company and let someone in. Someone they rigorously test until deemed 'suitable'.
I am not sure why they do this, but I think perhaps, as per most comedians, they really like an audience for their antics. That adds to the fun.

When they are 'sending up' some unsuspecting indiviual who really is clueless as to what is going on, the INTJ gets a kick out of knowing that someone else (a third party) is in on the joke.
I think the Queen is Prince Philip's 'side-kick' in this regard, which is why she never appears upset with his gaffes.
It is quite the privilege for the non-INTJ to be allowed into this position of honour, so they hold it dear. It quickly becomes one of their guilty pleasures :-)
The INTJ is allowed to freely indulge in their defiance of social etiquette if they have an 'accomplice' such as this, especially a woman, who will 'alibi' for him.
If he goes too far, it is she who has to lead him back to within acceptable limits. Because he really has no limit :-)
And God help them both if she too is an INTJ, because then, it really will be a case of the blind leading the blind...

There are two British comedians who are especially good at this 'sending people up' game. Here they are in action:
First up, Sacha Baron Cohen as 'Ali G' who took Britain by storm around ten years ago with his 'faux-ghetto' persona.
This particular clip is especially funny given the general subject matter of this blog:



And then there is Paul Kaye, who goes by the name of 'Denis Pennis' and likes to interview his 'victims' in an American accent, for some obscure reason :-)



Back to 'Firelight', I think now that Elizabeth Laurier might well be an INTJ. I did wonder in one of my previous reviews whether she was INTJ or INTP but on reflection, I think I now have my answer.

In the scene with her daughter Louisa, she executes the 'agree and amplify' thing to perfection.
As PUA tacticians would add, she also managed to seriously 'mess with Louisa's head' in the process.


Except, 'mess' is not the word commonly used in this context, but in the interests of decorum...

00:20 to 01:27...


INTJs love their little head-games. And the fewer people that are 'privy' to their self-entertainment the better for them. But they do like at least one person to share in this with them. It has come to my attention that I have been an unwitting 'co-pilot' in this regard for a long time.

But now I am very much a willing 'accomplice', even if that means that sometimes I am taken to the 'dark side' of acceptable limits of humour :-)

I wonder - do other personality types do this?
Is this funny or unacceptable, by the way?
Why am I reminded of this 'sending up' phenomenon when I witness the tearing apart of (usually) a woman (but not exclusively) on a Manosphere blog by male commenters who seem to form a 'hyena pack' in their ferocity?
Surely they can't all be INTJs having a laugh, literally, in hyena fashion, can they?
Can they?
Whatever it is, it is only fair to say that this phenomenon does take at least a minimum standard of some intelligence, no?
One's gotta admire the smartness behind it...


Unless of course, one is the victim.
Then it's just not funny at all...



Ali G on feminism again:
:-)

I am not sure if this woman realises how much she is being 'sent up'. Perhaps she is aware, and is just playing along... I really hope this is the case...for her sake...


And finally, DON'T watch this next video if you are a sensitive type. His interviews with the lesbian couple and the Catholic priest I think border on the unacceptable...this is EXACTLY what I mean by the 'dark side' of humour...
Unfortunately, this is what INTJs do best...